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I don’t see how this clashes with open source hardware though.

[RFC PATCH 01/17] et1011c: Replaced PHY driver by a small dm646x board fixup

John Adair Enterpoint Ltd. Can you imagine how hard it would be to design anything if every chip you used had NDAs attached to it? I have found candidates from Marvell, Vitesse, and Broadcom. Create free account Forgot password? I mean, what could possibly be NDA-worthy in the datasheet for a 4 year old part that implements a technology GbE which is nearly a decade old?

Sign in Sign in Remember me Forgot username or password? An NDA might be more of a problem for the software; device driver source typically contains information about many of the PHY internal registers.


Plus, all the source code is open as well, so who knows what secret registers that might reveal. The problem is that all of them require an NDA just to see the datasheet. Besides, I rt1011c want to reward such bad behavior by these chip companies. We didn’t think it was worth incorporating in development boards, or modules, if our customers couldn’t get the basic information. Introduction to Microcontrollers Mike Silva.

I can only hope these companies stop dtaasheet so snobbish as they get rapid volume turnoff in the current recession in their favoured consumer markets. For example, I found this schematic containing an 88E in less than a minute of searching: On 17 Dec, It has 4 problems: The fact that other users have been forced to redact pages of schematics tells me that this is a serious problem.

This seems nuts to me.

Anybody have any experience with it? The schematic merely shows the pinout. The pinout isn’t covered by the NDA, as that information is already published in schematics that you can download. All claim to use about half the power, et101c1 much smaller, and don’t need the 1. It is cheap, low power, available, and they give out the datasheets without an NDA.


The other problem with these companies is getting smallish numbers of chips is generally expensive and difficult.

[RFC] etc: Replaced PHY driver by a small dmx board fixup – Patchwork

Micrel has nothing gigabit on their website. On Dec 17, 2: We have had the same problem and partially why we have not as yet got a phy module at gigabit available. I am not a lawyer, and you should read the terms of the NDA very closely.